Cohort Payback Curve Calculator
Estimate when a cohort pays back CAC using a simple retention curve (two-stage churn) and optional expansion.
Payback is a cash reality check. Even if LTV is high, you can still fail if payback is too slow for your cash runway.
This calculator estimates cohort payback using a two-stage retention model (higher churn early, lower churn later) and optional expansion on surviving customers.
Prefer an explanation- Read the guide.
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Expansion applied to surviving customers (set 0 to disable).
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Tip: you can type commas (e.g., 10,000).
Example
Using the default inputs, the result is:
10.9 months
- CAC (per new customer)
- $6,000
- ARPA (monthly)
- $800
- Gross margin
- 80%
- Early monthly churn
- 6%
- Early phase months
- 3
- Steady-state monthly churn
- 1%
- Monthly expansion (optional)
- 0.5%
- Months to model
- 36
How to calculate
- Enter ARPA and gross margin to compute monthly gross profit per active customer.
- Enter CAC per new customer and your early vs steady-state churn assumptions.
- Optionally add monthly expansion to model upgrades/seat growth.
- Review the payback month and cumulative gross profit over the horizon.
Formula
Cumulative gross profit = sum (retained_customers_t x ARPA_t x gross margin); Payback occurs when cumulative gross profit >= CAC
- Two-stage logo churn (early vs steady-state).
- Expansion applies to surviving customers' revenue each month (simplified).
- Gross margin is constant and used as a proxy for gross profit.
FAQ
Why model early churn separately-
Because early churn often dominates payback. Improving activation and onboarding can dramatically reduce payback even if steady-state churn is unchanged.
Should I use logo churn or revenue churn-
Payback is about cash from customers. If expansion and downgrades matter, model revenue retention curves (NRR/GRR). Logo churn is still useful for intuition but can miss dollar effects.
Common mistakes
- Using blended churn across segments (plan/channel) and hiding weak cohorts.
- Using revenue instead of gross profit for payback (costs matter).
- Assuming churn is constant; early churn often dominates payback.
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Quick checks
- Keep time units consistent (monthly vs annual) across inputs and outputs.
- Segment by cohort/channel/plan before trusting a blended average.
- Use the related guide to avoid common definition and denominator mismatches.